TOWN HALL MEETING SEPTEMBER

Transcript of meeting presented on line via YouTube, Bitchute, Oddysee and Rumble.

Last month in our Town Hall meeting I made the statement we should ask ourselves what sort of a country we want to be.

Hello, and welcome I’m Mike Bain from Christian Voice New Zealand and thanks for joining us for this, our last Town Hall Meeting before what is being said to be the most important election in our time.

As we Incorporate our theme of Pray, Vote, Stand, as we have looked at the state of this nation in previous meetings, today I want to look at three questions about New Zealand.

• What sort of country did our forefathers want,
• What sort of country should we have become,
• What sort of country we ought to be?

Hopefully by the end of this meeting you will agree with each other and if you don’t you will ponder the thoughts expressed, and I welcome any thoughts, good or bad, you will leave in the comments section.

• What sort of country did our forefathers want.

It’s always been fashionable to look at the past and the reason why many people look in the rear vision mirror and that is to see how far they have come.

But what sort of country could we have been the question.

Jacinda Ardern talked about being aspirational and I think there is a great place to start.

A new colony of the British Empire was looking to aspire into nation built on Christian values and principles.

The underlying foundational principles are a bit vague, obscure to say the least.

It’s believed though by scholars they would have included relevant statutes based on

• The 1297 Magna Carta,
• the 1688 Bill of Rights,
• the 1700 Act of settlement which would have regulated succession to the throne among other matters.
• As well as the Treaty of Waitangi 1840.

The underlying principle was one of democracy.

• where the monarch of the day, in this case it was Queen Victoria, Today King Charles, he or she is represented by the Governor General, whose decisions are upheld by acting members of the crown such as the judiciary.
• But it was the place of Parliament where the power of the country was to sit and make the decisions for the country and by a majority of consensus from parliamentarians would then be signed by the Monarchs representative, The Governor General.

Once established other foundation principles could be adhered to such as

• the rule of law,
• The principle of legality—the dignity of the individual and the presumption in favour of liberty …

• Respect for property …
• Natural justice …
• Access to the courts …
• The spirit and principles of the Treaty of Waitangi …

It was on these foundations New Zealand became a part of the British Empire.

The Treaty of Waitangi was signed in good faith by the queen’s representative and many Māori tribal leaders.

To say New Zealand underwent some growing pains as settlers and Māori clashed over lands, is a bit of an understatement, an issue which is slowly being settled.

However, around the turn of the century all were living and working towards building a nation.

In its first 100 years a lot happened with the Great War, then the second world war, but both European and Māori along with the growing generation worked harmoniously together.

Some people from other parts of the Pacific arrived in New Zealand and established a place to call home.

It was kind of like a eutopia with differing nationalities working together.

This was the real foundation of New Zealand and one which could have gone on and been aspirational to other lands such as the US with its civil rights issues and South Africa and its apartheid regimes.

But the rumblings of discontent were just starting to rumble with new generations starting to voice their discontent, it wasn’t just a New Zealand thing, as we see many indigenous peoples from all parts starting to rise.

And this really does bring us up to about the turn of the century.

We started to see people no longer accepting what had gone before, we started to have a culture of blame, it was like a cancer spreading across the land, everyone started to exert their own rights and yesterday’s agreements started to look a bit shoneky amongst the growing generations to the stage where discontent was everywhere.

Instead of a society built on Christian principles one of which was Love your neighbour as yourself became one where everyone started to love themselves and want what they thought was rightfully theirs.

Everything was wrong in this country where brother began arguing and exerting their rights against each other, where they chased God and common sense from the public square, out of parliament, out of education and dare I say it, off the marae and homes.

Any aspirations our forefathers had that we would become a land where everyone was welcome, a land where we would live in peace with each other was shattered.

I asked the question as to what sort of country did our forefathers want us to become, there was no real decisive plan, except to be an outpost of the British Empire.

New Zealand suffered hard times like other nations around the world with the great depression, it sent its young to distant shores to be sacrificed in the name of the realm and freedom.

Following the war New Zealand servicemen returned home and just got on with it.

They married their long-time sweethearts, producing a boomer generation and the country drifted along.

Either no one knew the word aspirational or knew how to spell it, but it was a great time for those who remember it.

The country was a safe place for everyone to live, all races, both brown, white, or any other color lived in harmony.

In 1840 after the signing of the Treaty of Waitangi it was recorded there was a loud hurrah and a declaration made “we are all one people.” A sentiment that lasted well over a century.

In 1975 the Treaty of Waitangi Act was passed by parliament and altered again just a decade later.

Amendments were made to right the wrongs of the past and so they should.

I don’t think anyone in this country would disagree Māori may have been shafted at that time.

But this appears to be not enough among some members of Maoridom and the cracks in the cultural peace and harmony started to appear.

Which brings us to our lowest point in history thus far.

In 2017 democracy changed when New Zealand underwent its first political coupe where the majority party with the most votes were unbale to continue to rule.

We all remember Winston Peters wouldn’t allow National take the treasury bench and allied himself as the kingmaker and hitched his wagon to the Labour Party.

The transition from a country which championed democracy was about to change and we were to become a country which looked the same, felt the same but there was a differing agenda in the air.

We heard the word aspirational and fell in love with a Prime Minister who as history has recorded was clearly out of her depth as a leader.

Instead of the aspirational goals of Jacinda Ardern failure was starting its creep.

Before the pandemic there were signs despite all the promises, Housing, lifting people out of poverty, and improving the lives of ordinary citizens could not and still six years later been delivered.

Without a doubt Covid changed many countries around the world but here we saw things happen which we would have never accepted in any other time.

New Zealand became a nation which looked totally different because of emergency powers which were enacted under the guise to keep its citizens safe.

As I mentioned its always good to look back to see how far we have come and now hindsight tells us we, the New Zealand Public were sucked in by forces from offshore and we were ruled by fear.

The Covid years will be remembered as a time when left wing Marxism collided with straight out Fascism with lockdowns, border security, restrictions on everyday life, we were encouraged to report on the actions of friends’ neighbours and family members.

Society was separated into the haves and have nots over the mismanaged Vaccine roll out.

New Zealanders were signed up to become guinea pigs in a worldwide grasp for control.

It was during this time we heard the words “be kind” put a Teddy in the window, many put them at their gates and weren’t kind, they left them out there in all sorts of weather, Be Kind, it was the mantra of a smiling Prime minister who was indeed a Marxist, but also a puppet with her strings being pulled by the World Economic Forum and the United Nations.

My friends if you had told me in 2017, we would have censorship across our country with army checkpoints I would not have believed you.

Life after Covid is no better as the divisions in this country have become worse.

From the declaration of we are one people we are definitely not as one.

Although Jacinda Ardern has gone away Marxist ideals are still held by the governing party, Smile all you like Prime Minister Hipkins, a return to power for your government and what it stands for will see civil war, if not greater civil unrest as the divisions of the entitled come to the fore.

This is the country we are today, A country bent on destroying everything previous generations wanted for us.

We are a country with no aspiration because a country divided cannot stand. This is who we are, this is where we are, and all I can say is good luck to those fleeing from this land.

I asked at last months meeting, what sort of country do we want in the future and today I have changed that and ask what sort of country should we “out” to be?

For us to be a great little country at the bottom of the world we have, we must get along.

We need to put the past behind us and live with a sense of decency towards each other.

• Bob McCroskie from Family First will love this one.We need to bring families back to the dinner table,
• We need to take responsibility for our families, if you are going to let the village raise your child beware the village produces idiots as well, and there are plenty of them these days.
• We need to have a culture of dignity and acceptance of each other as we are all different and our families, tribes, we were all strangers to this land we call home.

With the forthcoming election we need to have strength, wisdom, and fairness back in parliament, above all we need leadership, not popularity.

If it means we need to change our constitution, then let’s start the discussion.

There is so much we can do, but it takes someone to make a start if we are to heal our nation and become what it ought to be. Can you be that person? Can you accept your fellow worker is different, has differing opinions, maybe even has different skin color, it doesn’t matter we need to accept and let others know we accept them.

So let me come to our theme of these meetings throughout the year Pray, Vote, Stand.

Without a doubt, if we as a nation return to God, his love, his mercy, and his sovereignty we as a nation will be blessed.

We need to pray for that to happen, it won’t just suddenly be all Kumbaya in the morning but if we took a biblical attitude to the way we treat each other, You won’t but help notice the difference, so yes, I ask you pray for this nation to become what it “out to be.”

Other ways we can make change is to ensure who we vote for has the country’s best interest at heart.

We, all of us, can send a message to our wannabe politicians that we reject the state and culture of this country, and encourage them to work towards a goal of being the country we ought to be.

Finally, the word stand, I am going to make an addendum here and say stand Firm.

New Zealand, we have a great country, one with its natural beauty, its climate, its cities but above all its people.

• We need to stand together, without entitlement, and adopt the old mantra and return to be a great country with its number eight fencing wire attitude.
• We need to continually pray for this nation, for each other, and ourselves.
• We need to return to democracy the way it was intended, one man one vote.
• We need to guard against anything else which will creep into and change this great country of ours.
• We need to stand, stand firm on the blessings God has given us by way of life, family, and home.
• We need to lift our voices as they did after the signing of the Treaty of Waitangi and declare “We are One People.”

That is the type of country we ought to be, and that would truly be aspirational.